Czyli mała sekcja poświęcona wszystkim concept artom - czyli grafikom projektanckim jakie powstały dla filmów i seriali Star Trek. Innymi słowy - jaki mógłby być Star Trek gdyby producenci zadecydowali inaczej...

Na początek dwa linki:
Ottens Forgotten Trek - strona prezentująca rozwój pomysłów w Star Treku, łącznie z niebyłym Phase II

zgromadzona przeze mnie kolekcja zrzutów ekranowych z jednego z dodatków do DS9 - "A bold beginning", przedstawiającego projektowanie stacji.

Pah Wraith

Bardzo ładne grafiki. Muszę powiedzieć, że (sam nie wiem czemu) pogodne, "opływowe" projektowane wnętrza do Phase II kojarzą mi się w jakiś nieuchwytny sposób z "Obłokiem Magellana"...

W konwencji Nieodkrytego Treka zmieści się także ten link:
http://www.fastcopyinc.com/orionpress/articles/uns een.htm

znajdziemy w nim m.in. niewykorzystane warianty i fragmenty scenariuszy oryginalnego serialu

Pah Wraith

znajdziemy w nim m.in. niewykorzystane warianty i fragmenty scenariuszy oryginalnego serialu

Fascinating...

BTW: w sumie koncepcje, które wygrzebaliśmy z waterhousem (Jego filmu, mój reBootu) i niewydana w końcu powieść Sawyera, która miała wpływ na ST V, też powinny trafić do tego wątku...

wklejaj, zrobimy kompendium, a potem napisze się artykulik

Pah Wraith

wklejaj,

Tyle, że one już są, gdzie indziej... Ale ok:

1. scenariusz Jendersena (Kompania Braci) do ST XI (wygrzebał waterhouse)
http://www.startrek.pl/forum/index.php?action=vthr ead&topic=1963&forum=2&page=0#1
2. koncepcja reBootu TOSu - autorstaw duetu Straczynski & Zabel:
http://www.startrek.pl/forum/index.php?action=vthr ead&forum=2&topic=1963&page=1#15
(na samym dole postu)
3. niedokończona powieść Sawyera ze świata ST:
http://www.startrek.pl/forum/index.php?action=vthr ead&forum=2&topic=1250&page=15#8

Jeszcze trochę o Phase II (nic szczególnie odkrywczego, ale...):
http://retrotv1.blogspot.com/2008/05/star-trek-pha se-ii.html

A oto jak mógłby wyglądać NX-01 w 5-tym sezonie ENT:
http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2010/04/25/nx-01-re fit-diagram/
refit zakładał m.in.:
- białą, ceramiczną powierzchnię kadłuba, która zbliżyłaby wygląd okrętu do NCC-1701
- dodanie drugiego silnika warp, który umożliwiałby podróż w warp 7

Pah Wraith

Aż szkoda, że ten pięty sezon nie powstał. To wielka szkoda, co by nie mówić, zwłaszcza, że od tej pory az do zeszłego roku żylibyśmy na całkowitym beztrekowiu... gdyby nie nagrania.

Podoba mi się nowy NX

Kilka kolejnych fotek:
http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2010/01/31/2011-sot l-technofold-sneak-peek/
http://drexfiles.wordpress.com/2010/01/03/nx-01-5- season-five-refit-teaser/
http://i823.photobucket.com/albums/zz153/AnyStarMo deler/NX-ent/nx_season_5_refit_teaser1-1.jpg
http://forums.startreknewvoyages.com/index.php?top ic=10373.0

Jeszcze a'propos AND... Wiecie, że centralnym fabularnie okrętem miał być Enterprise, Nietzscheanie to - wbrew pozorom - zdziczali Wolkanie, Magogowie - zbydlęceni Klingoni, a całość miała nosić tytuł Star Trek - Phoenix Rising?

Robert Hewitt Wolfe conceives of his "perfect" Star Trek series: a series set thousands of years in Star Trek's future. The galaxy is in turmoil, all of the governments to which Trek fans are accustomed have crumbled and imploded. The galaxy is a really screwed up place: Vulcans have renounced their logic and are now savage enemies of anyone who crosses them. Homeless Klingons roam space in violent packs of attack ships. The Federation is long gone - but it is an ideal not forgotten to those living in this untamed reality.

A Federation Starship...an "Enterprise" from a bit further down the ship's lineage...is discovered drifting in space, its Captain (and maybe a few crew) are frozen in stasis. Ship and crew are revived, and are horrified by the galaxy to which they awaken. Using their Enterprise as an icon for the cohesion and strength that used to be (but is now lost), Enterprise and her rag-tag crew set out to restore the Federation to what it once was, and restore peace and balance to the galaxy.

It is unclear if Wolfe ever formally approached Paramount with this Trek series concept. None the less, the basic idea for his series is finding its way into a new (non-Trek) "Roddenberry" series called Phoenix Rising.

Take the Genesis II / Planet Earth scenarios mentioned above...throw them together with Wolfe's "ideal" Star Trek series...and you get Gene Roddenberry's PHOENIX RISING. PR is the tale of a spaceship and captain found drifting in deep space. They are revived into a galaxy that is all messed-up. They set about trying to restore peace and order to the way of things - by trying to re-unite the galaxy and resurrect the glorious old days of solidarity and (relative) peace. It's a tough job in a tough place, but somebody's gotta do it.

Given this formula, one significant question sticks out: this "galaxy in decay" notion would have worked magnificently on Star Trek - as viewers would already have a general frame of reference for what Trek history looks like & feels like. Thus, we can understand what has actually been lost, and are able to visualize what our heroes are trying to resurrect.

But Phoenix Rising does not have the benefit of dealing with such solid and established notions of what has come before, because its back history (on which the entire series is predicated) has never been seen or experienced by the audience. As such, one concern regarding Phoenix Rising is that our heroes will be struggling towards a "new order" / "golden age" which has no resonance or point of association to the viewer. Thus, the "goal" of the series might seem tenuous or abstract, unless the show (somehow) conceives of a brilliant & effective way to convey the coveted age of hope which our characters are striving to bring back - so we can associate with what their endgame really is.

As far as I can tell, Hercules' Kevin Sorbo has expressed great interest in playing the revived captain in Phoenix Rising, although no final decisions have been made on this.
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/4201
http://www.visimag.com/starburst/255_things.htm
I kawalek dyskusji:
http://nitcentral.philfarrand.com/discus/messages/ 1996/12364.html?971442725

A tu potwierdzenie zmiany nazwy PR na AND:
http://www.trektoday.com/news/250801_06.shtml
I recenzyjki zrealizowanego już projektu:
http://www.theindependentreviewssite.org/v2_i1/v2_ i1_special.html
http://geekspeakmagazine.com/2012/08/review-androm eda-2000-2005/

Babylon 5 natomiast, jak można się domyślać z wszechobecnych w nim nawiązań do TOS "Journey to Babel" (o czym i wspominałem i podpierałem się linkami), miał się raczej zwać Star Trek - Babel 5. (Z czego wynika, że ten TOSowy to min. Babel 6.)

Blog odkrywający tajemnice przeszłości Treka, ze wszech miar godny polecenia:
http://startrekfactcheck.blogspot.com/

O niektórych niezrealizowanych pomysłach na TNG (i nie tylko):

10 Things You Probably Didn't Know About Star Trek: The Next Generation
Charlie Jane Anders
Filed to: Daily 10
10/04/11 10:00am

With Star Trek: The Next Generation coming to Blu-ray next year, we're going to be rediscovering the Enterprise-D all over again. And with all that new picture quality, we'll be able to notice all sorts of details we missed the first time.
TNG didn't just bring Star Trek back to life on television — it also reinvented television space opera, making some fascinating choices along the way. Here are 10 things you probably didn't know about Star Trek: The Next Generation.
10. Rock Star Cameos.
Mick Fleetwood from Fleetwood Mac shaved off his famous beard for a guest spot in the TNG episode "Manhunt" — but then he was cast as an Antedean, a fish-like alien, and thus his face was completely covered up in any case. Meanwhile, Picard's former love interest, Jenice Manheim, in "We'll Always Have Paris," was played by Michelle Philips, former member of The Mamas & The Papas. Source: IMDB. (Philips also played William Shatner's love interest in an episode of T.J. Hooker.)
9) Star Trek Without Starships?
Early on in the planning of TNG, the creators went through a few different concepts, including setting the show 150 years after the Original Series instead of just 78 years later, and setting it on the Enterprise-G. And they also considered getting rid of the Enterprise altogether — because Transporter technology would have advanced so far, the crew could just teleport from planet to planet, instead of flying in a ship. Source: Star Trek: The Next Generation Technical Manual.
8) Gene Roddenberry banned stories about warfare with Romulans or Klingons.
He also wanted no stories about Vulcans, whatsoever, according to the original March 1987 Writers/Directors Guide (PDF). Other standard tropes from the Original Series that Roddenberry banned from TNG: "stories about psi-forces or psychic powers," "swords and sorcery," "mad scientists, or stories in which technology is considered the villain." He also never wanted to see the crew violating the Prime Directive, or "toppling cultures that we don't approve of." And no stories in which the ship is put in danger because the technology fails, or the crew makes a dumb mistake.
The original series bible (which is a fascinating read), also says Picard and Riker have a "father-son relationship," and Picard often pretends to think France is "the only true civilization on Earth." Also, the phrase "fully functional" is underlined when discussing Data. And Tasha Yar is obsessed with Wesley Crusher, who's her "beau ideal" and the childhood friend she never had. Also, Picard "cannot help noticing that Beverly Crusher's natural walk resembles that of a striptease queen." Source: Original Bible.
7) Boothby could have been the Traveler.
An early draft of the episode "Journey's End" included the revelation that Boothby was in fact The Traveler who has been serving as Jean-Luc Picard and Wesley Crusher's Starfleet Academy confidant to keep an eye on them and guide them to their destiny. The Traveler would have revealed the truth by transforming from Lakanta (the Native American guide) to Boothby, and then to his true form, in Ronald D. Moore's original script. But Michael Piller objected, on the grounds that it would cheapen Picard's own relationship with Boothby. Source: Star Trek: The Next Generation Companion by Larry Nemecek.
6) Locutus could have been the original Tuvix.
In one version of the "Best of Both Worlds" storyline, the Borg would have combined Data and Picard into a single Borg unit. But according to producer Michael Piller, someone finally asked why the Borg would do that, and nobody had a good explanation. So the idea was dropped. Source: Captains' Logs: The Unauthorized Complete Trek Voyages.
5) Wesley almost got decapitated.
We see alt-Riker get killed in the final moments of the episode "Yesterday's Enterprise," during the bloody final battle. But other deaths got dropped due to time and budget constraints. We just barely missed out on seeing alt-Wesley's head get cut off, plus Data would have gotten electrocuted.
4) Data nearly became the Enterprise's First Officer
In the episode "Second Chances," where we meet the Transporter duplicate of Will Riker, the writing staff seriously considered killing off the "original" Riker and bringing the Transporter twin, Thomas Riker, on as a new crewmember. Because Thomas Riker had a lower rank, he would have become the ops officer, and Data would have taken Will Riker's place as First Officer.
3) Troi nearly had three breasts.
In early brainstorming, the producers wanted Deanna Troi to have three breasts, just like that woman in Total Recall. But producer D.C. Fontana objected — she told Entertainment Weekly, "I objected to Troi having three breasts. I felt women have enough trouble with two. And how are you going to line them up? Vertically, horizontally, or what? I was like, please, don't go there. And they didn't, fortunately." Also, at one point early on, Gene Roddenberry wanted to make Wesley Crusher a girl named Lesley. And Tasha Yar was original a tough Latina named Macha Hernandez, based on Vasquez from Aliens. Sources: EW, Star Trek: The Next Generation Companion by Larry Nemecek.
2) The Mylar Pom-Pom of a Thousand Uses.
The TNG visual effects crew was used to doing a lot with whatever they could get their hands on — but the mylar pom-pom was the most versatile visual effects source of them all. Special effects master Dan Curry used the pom-pom to create a "phaser hit" effect. The same pom-pom also served as a nebula. And as the force field that imprisons Riker in the episode "Arsenal of Freedom." Also, another force field was created by the water spray from an ordinary garden hose. The "end of the universe" in "Where No Man Has Gone Before" was created from the shimmering reflective patterns from a pan of water. Source: Star Trek: The Next Generation: Technical Manual by Rick Sternbach and Michael Okuda.
1) The Enterprise Bridge would have had a conference table in the middle.
Do you think the Enterprise-D crew spent rather a lot of time sitting around the conference table? It would have been way more noticeable, if Gene Roddenberry had gotten his way. Roddenberry's original idea for the Enterprise-D bridge was to have a huge view screen — four times the size of the screen on the original Enterprise — with a conference table right in front of it. He also wanted an observation lounge as part of the bridge, which eventually became a separate room. (Another fun fact: The soundstage where the Enterprise bridge was created was inhabited by feral cats, so it was full of cat shit at first.) Source: Star Trek: The Next Generation Companion: Revised Edition by Larry Nemecek.
http://io9.com/5846344/10-things-you-probably-didn t-know-about-star-trek-the-next-generation/all

Zwracam uwagę na punkty 9 i 8, czyli na fakt, że idea SG-1 i SGA (oraz irytującego Transportu Transwarp w "dwunastce") pochodzi z wczesnych przymiarek do TNG oraz na to jak bardzo Roddenberry chciał się oderwać od kanonu TOS (co - jak wiemy - mu się nie udało: Romulanie w roli villainów powrócili już w "The Neutral Zone"); Troi z trzema cyckami - celowo ironicznie używam tu tego określenia - (punkt 3) też godna odnotowania w roli ciekawostki.

Ciekawe z tymi Gejtami, a ja mam storyboardy TWOK:
http://io9.com/original-star-trek-ii-wrath-of-khan -vfx-storyboards-ar-1554912547

Dathon

A ja znów widzę, że linkowany przez Ciebie blog zawiera ciekawostki o wczesnych koncepcjach TNG i DS9, które z biblii owych serii trafiły do pierwszych samodzielnych powieści osadzonych w ich realiach:
http://wherenobloghasgonebefore.blogspot.com/2013/ 04/a-review-of-star-trek-next-generation.html
http://wherenobloghasgonebefore.blogspot.com/2013/ 04/a-review-of-siege-1993-tie-in-novel.html
Wypunktujmy:
1. psychomachia Picard-Riker (w manierze Horpach-Rohan i Kirk-Decker), której ślady jawiły się zresztą w paru wczesnych odcinkach,
2. uprzedzenia Rikera wobec Daty i jego wewnętrzna walka z nimi (czyżby stąd pochodziły wewnętrzne dylematy dowódcy sawyerowego Starplexu?),
3. William "Bill" - nie "Will" - Riker,
4. zmiennokształtność Odo wieczną zagadką (jego poszukiwanie swoich korzeni istotnym elementem napędowym fabuły),
5. problemy małżeńskie Milesa i Keiko na tle zawodowym.

Z kolei zamieszczona tam recenzja pierwszej powieści TOS:
http://wherenobloghasgonebefore.blogspot.com/2013/ 04/a-review-of-star-trek-mission-to.html
Sugeruje, że to właśnie z niej Whedon wziął Reaversów i planetę Mirandę (o mało Reaversami nie stała się załoga Kirka, dodajmy!), oraz, że odcinek "Bread and Circuses" mógł być planowany ze sporym wyprzedzeniem.

Junk Ball Media o genezie sceny z punkiem z ST IV i słyszalnej w tejże scenie piosenki noszącej wdzięczny tytuł "I Hate You":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd3NG2JX6lc

Skoro Eviva przypomniała "Encounter at Farpoint", a więc i D.C. Fontanę...

Że ostatnim - jak dotąd - wkładem w/w D.C. Fontany w Treka było NV "To Serve All My Days"* pewnie wiecie. O tym, że była producentem TAS, o jej wkładzie we wczesne TNG** i w B5*** też pewnie wiecie... Ale czy macie pojęcie jaki był ostatni "oficjalny" odcinek jaki napisała zanim przeszła do B5?
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Dax_(episode)
http://www.tor.com/blogs/2013/05/star-trek-deep-sp ace-nine-rewatch-dax
(I, że "Deep Space Nine is her favorite Star Trek spinoff. She especially liked the show's strong characters.", jak twierdzi MA.)

* http://stexpanded.wikia.com/wiki/To_Serve_All_My_D ays_(Phase_II_episode)

** acz nie wiem czy wiecie na czym konkretnie się skończył?
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Heart_of_Glory_(ep isode)

*** nawet spory był:
http://babylon5.wikia.com/wiki/The_War_Prayer
http://babylon5.wikia.com/wiki/Legacies
http://babylon5.wikia.com/wiki/A_Distant_Star

ps. Dorzućmy cameo Davida Gerrolda w "Trials and Tribble-ations" i jego - oraz, większy, Ellisona - wkład powstawanie w B5 i naprawdę trudno wyrzucić zarówno DS9 jak i serię Straczynskiego z rodziny... A skoro o nich mowa...
http://www.tor.com/blogs/2013/02/is-this-the-smoki ng-gun-proving-deep-space-nine-ripped-off-babylon- 5

To mnie zainspirowało.

Alek Roj


Mnie też, w pewnym sensie.... Jak o tym przypomniałeś, odezwały mi się w głowie zmodyfikowane słowa piosenki Aurelio Voltaire'a: "Lesley Crusher nude in Tasha's bed." i pomyślałem sobie, że wtedy wątek ex-żony Dax(a) byłby mniej prekursorski.

A jak już do tych ciekawostek wracamy...

TO mnie b. ucieszyło jako fana Aliens i Vasquez...


EDIT: Jeszcze a'propos Fontany i DS9:

TrekMovie.com: Changing subjects – yesterday Bob Justman was asked if he thought Gene Roddenberry would have liked Deep Space Nine. He only said ‘things change.’ I know you liked the show and wrote one episode [Dax], so do you think Gene would have liked the show in the end?
Dorothy Fontana: I suspect he might have. It was an extension of The Next Generation and the Star Trek universe and he was always interested in that. He loved that universe.
TrekMovie.com: So you don’t think he would have been bothered by some of the darker themes and less optimistic view of the future that [show runner] Ira [Steven Behr] was going with?
Dorothy Fontana: I know Ira Steven Behr. He is a good writer and solid story editor and producer. He is doing quite well on another series, The 4400, right now. He is really good with character and story. I think Gene would have liked it ultimately even with the darker themes. Let’s face it, Gene lived and fought through World War II and that is pretty dark days so he has to know they occur. He was around when we were in the middle of the muck of Vietnam. He would like to think that humanity would be better than that, but we made the same mistakes over and over again and until we learned from history I suspect we are going to keep on doing it.
http://trekmovie.com/2007/08/16/dorothy-fontana-on -new-comics-new-novel-canon-ds9-ent-new-movie/

Trochę plotek nt. narodzin Treka i tego, jaki był Roddenberry:
http://www.express.co.uk/celebrity-news/397341/Doc umentary-reveals-how-the-original-Star-Trek-series -almost-didn-t-take-off

Prawdę mówiąc trochę mnie zatkało... Wiedzieliście, że spora ilość fanów TOS bojkotowała TNG i dopiero jakość "TBoBW" (czyli bardziej Piller niż Roddenberry) spowodowała, że ów bojkot przerwali?
http://startrekrenegades.com/trek/2016/06/03/the-n ext-generation-boycott/

Ciekawe jak będzie z nową serią?

Trochę o filmowaniu TOS, od strony technicznej:
http://www.startrek.com/article/the-lost-film-of-t os

Trochę o finalnej - acz różniącej się w detalach od tego, co zobaczyliśmy - wersji scenariusza TOS "The Alternative Factor"
http://www.orionpressfanzines.com/articles/alterna tive_factor.htm
http://startrekfactcheck.blogspot.com/2016/12/unse en-trek-alternative-factor-final.html
I o wersji wcześniejszej, z międzyrasowym romansem:
http://www.thegeektwins.com/2014/04/the-first-star -trek-interracial-kiss.html

Swoją drogą, nawet w nieudanej wersji ostatecznej wypadnie docenić postać porucznik Charlene Masters (czarnoskórej kobiety-naukowca, w latach '60!):

http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Charlene_Master s
Granej - co godne również odnotowania - przez psycholog z wykształcenia (postęp ekranowy szedł więc w parze prawdziwym):
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Janet_MacLachla n

O "The Alternative Factor" - cd.:
http://startrekfactcheck.blogspot.com/2016/12/the- alternative-factor-what-hell.html

Trochę o "Devil's Due", jednej z tych historii, które TNG odziedziczyło po nienakręconej Phase II, i obu jej wersjach:
https://trekfanproductions.com/2017/02/06/guestblo gshawnhussell/

O tym jak to z TOSem i z The Monkees* naprawdę było:
http://startrekfactcheck.blogspot.com/2017/02/a-li ttle-monkee-business.html

* zespołem i serialem:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Monkees
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Monkees_(TV_serie s)

Trochę o pracy Josepha Jenningsa, production designera TWoK:
http://www.startrek.com/article/celebrating-the-wo rk-of-khan-production-designer-joseph-jennings

Kolejna ciekawostka - kariera Fontany jako scenarzystki nie rozpoczęła się - wbrew obiegowej opinii - od Treka:
http://startrekfactcheck.blogspot.com/2017/03/did- dc-fontana-get-her-first.html

Zbiór ciekawostek o kolejnych filmach:
http://www.warpedfactor.com/2015/01/15-things-you- may-not-know-about-star.html
http://www.warpedfactor.com/2015/02/10-things-you- may-not-know-about-star_4.html
http://www.warpedfactor.com/2015/03/10-things-you- may-not-know-about-star.html
http://www.warpedfactor.com/2015/04/10-things-you- might-not-know-about-star.html
http://www.warpedfactor.com/2015/05/10-things-you- might-not-know-about-star.html
http://www.warpedfactor.com/2015/06/10-things-you- may-not-know-about-star.html
http://www.warpedfactor.com/2015/07/10-things-you- may-not-know-about-star.html
http://www.warpedfactor.com/2015/08/10-things-you- may-not-know-about-star.html
http://www.warpedfactor.com/2015/09/10-things-you- may-not-know-about-star.html
http://www.warpedfactor.com/2015/10/10-things-you- might-not-know-about-star.html
http://www.warpedfactor.com/2015/11/10-things-you- may-not-know-about-star.html
http://www.warpedfactor.com/2015/12/10-things-you- might-not-know-about-star.html
http://www.warpedfactor.com/2015/05/10-things-you- might-not-know-about_11.html
I serialach ST:
http://www.warpedfactor.com/2014/05/10-things-you- might-not-know-about-star.html
http://www.warpedfactor.com/2016/09/10-things-you- might-not-know-about-star.html
http://www.warpedfactor.com/2014/07/10-things-you- might-not-know-about-star.html
http://www.warpedfactor.com/2014/11/10-things-you- might-not-know-about-star.html
http://www.warpedfactor.com/2014/09/10-things-you- might-not-know-about-star.html

Oraz o Shatnerze i Nimoy'u:
http://www.warpedfactor.com/2015/06/10-things-you- might-not-know-about_10.html
http://www.warpedfactor.com/2014/07/10-things-you- might-not-know-about_16.html
http://www.warpedfactor.com/2014/08/10-more-things -you-might-not-know-about.html

Najbardziej zaszokowało mnie, że - dziś kochany dość powszechnie - TWoK budził swego czasu jeszcze gwałtowniejsze emocje negatywne niż TMP czy TNG-zanim-fandom-się-w- nim-rozkochał. Zacytuję spod drugiego linku i zdjęcie artykułu z epoki wrzucę:

"Originally Spock was to die in the first act of the movie, a huge shock moment so early on intended to make the audience sit up and take notice. But someone leaked the script and the fan backlash was not good. Death threats were sent to members of the production team - "You kill Spock, we kill you"!
The script was rewritten, and Spock's death was moved to later in the movie"



Coraz trudniej być dumnym Trekerem.

Kolejna ciekawostka z dziejów Treka... Ron Moore trzy lata temu zgadzał się z sugestiami przepytujących go fanów, że "Star Trek series doesn’t need to be based on a ship and that Netflix could be a future home for Trek":
http://trekmovie.com/2014/07/29/ron-moore-ponders- possible-future-star-trek-tv-series-recalls-trek-e xperiences-more-in-reddit-ama/

Zaiste, w ST żaden pomysł nie ginie, bo wszak DSC powstaje teraz na platformę cyfrową i nie ma typowego epizodyczno-statkocentrycznego charakteru...